Interesting point. Check back in if/when you give the PlateMate a try. It's a miracle I've survived as long as I have. Your previous content has been restored. I have a couple of Collings OM-1s: a Traditional (Adi top) with the faux tortoise plastic pins and an older OM-1 . Learn More. You must log in or register to reply here. Patience is called for when fitting pins. Bridge pins: this one baffles me. Oops, looks like you forgot something. General Acoustic Guitar and Amplification Discussion. Currency: These high quality, precisely machined bridge pins are polished to accent the beauty of the genuine ebony. David Warther & Co. is a major supplier of imitation ivory rods and bars. 2014 Martin OM-18 Authentic - don't even TRY to talk me into getting another guitar. I like Bob Colosi dyed bone bridge pins, because they afford you an opportunity to use something that compliments your particular guitar's aesthetics. only). Bob always over-sizes his products so they can be fit by you the way you want themRalphy. It's got an Adi top and is one of the guitars the set that became the "TV" line a few months later. Yes. Ross suggested going with unslotted pins to improve string ball end contact, as long as we were doing bridgeplate work. Everything you need to know about acoustic guitar string gauges. My newest acquisition just got a Bob Colosi compensated bone saddle and tortoise dot bone pins. I really like Bone pins and they are not very expensive (around $25.00). Heel: 4.2mm. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. I don't know for sure, but most guitars' pins today come with a 3 degree taper. Let us know what you hear when the Gibson gets it's turn. Display as a link instead, guitars with bone saddles, bone bridge pins, and bone nuts from the master Bob My guitar is a 2008 J-45. Been doing business with Bob for years. He was very friendly and helpful and his FWI bridgepins & saddles sound heavenly in my HD-28V. Age. Price: $ 149.95. $14.95 Brand New Free Shipping Second, Bob was very nice and I asked him a few questions, e.g. Ebony 10.99. however, my feeling is that there is more that this guitar has to offer. Custom Guitar Saddles by Bob Colosi (912) 882-1321 107 Partridge Lane St. Marys, GA 31558 Email Me at rcolosi@tds.net General Information Products Endpin Plugs Shim Kits Image Gallery L.R. Bob says these are softer than bone, but generally harder than plastic. I have installed three so far and will always get them on every guitar from now on. I bought a set of bone pins from Bob also. I'd support both Tony and Michael - bone or AA are both excellent, very little tonal difference (if any at all) between them, and both comparatively cheap. Lots of us here get pins and saddles of various material from Bob. jchabalk While Bob Colosi does have good stuff, I find that Luthiers Mercantile Intl (LMI) has a great selection of pins for reasonably cheap prices. View cart for details. Ray, I'd agree with Rich in saying the pins sit a touch higher than the factory plastic ones. I couldn't be more happy with them. IMO pins don't have much effect compared to saddles. First time I took pictures of the inside, so please forgive me :). I also think there might be issues with illegal new walrus ivory being passed off as FWI, so I personally wouldn't have a bar of them. By clicking Subscribe, I agree to receive exclusive offers & promotions, news & reviews, and personalized tips for buying and selling on Reverb. item 2 Pure Ebony Bridge Pins with Abalone Dot Inlay for 6 & 12 String Acoustic Guitar Pure Ebony Bridge Pins with Abalone Dot Inlay . Maybe an a/b sound clip? I have bought pins and custom saddles from Bob -- excellent transactions and results (especially the saddles -- made a tremendous difference in sound and playability). As a lifelong player who has gone through pins from dirt cheap junk to very pricy bling, I was very impressed with the material, fit, and finish of these fine pins. I installed these on my J-45 and they sound real nice. If you disagree I wish you joy of your fossil ivory or whatever, but my ears just don't catch the improvement. Its not bad but to my ears the sustain is hampered and volume. Many, many thanks to Frank, Eric and all involved with resurrecting the site and, of course, to Ed for all his years of supporting the old Forum. I prefer unslotted pins, if you do have slotted pins and want to change, you have to slot the bridge.unslotted pins help the ball ends of the string tobe easyon the bridge plate and on the pins themselves. Slotting the bridge and reaming the bridge pin holes to the right size for your pins is always recommended cause that's the way it should have been done in the first place and to avoid damage to the bridge plate, but in my opinion it also enhances sound and tone of a guitar. There's nothing more critical to our futureand everyone else'sthan developing forests with long-term sustainability. On 11/20/2019 at 9:23 PM, jschmitz54 said: https://www.stewmac.com/How-To/Trade_Secrets/Chopping_the_ends_off_bridge_pins.html. By Very unique high end parts for your guitar. Bob Colosi , and Bob England, as well as stock sets from Gurian Guitars. Your purchases help youth music programs get the gear they need to make music. Martin & Co. Inc. All Rights Reserved. My take is that the order I just presented is sorted by most to least influential on sound, but I would like to hear others' take on this. Excellent items are almost entirely free from blemishes and other visual defects and have been played or used with the utmost care. It is best to go to our guitar bridge pin size guide chart (Click Here) and scroll to select your pin size and to purchase. Are you sure you want to remove the following product from the cart? An Unofficial forum for those who love Martin instruments - Founded by Steve Stallings, Just picked up a set from Bob for my D18V. Set of 6 Fossil Mammoth Guitar Bridge Pins for $ 110.00Fossil mammoth ivory is from the tusks of the ancient wooly mammoth. They sit exactly like the plastic pins, that is, a little higher than flush, but I like them that way. https://www.stewmac.com/Hardware_and_Parts/Endpins_and_Bridge_Pins/Waverly_Ivoroid_Bridge_Pins.html. Just a perfect option for the low saddle AND poor fit. Stuff you won't find anywhere else. The only factor I see here is if the pins are substantial enough to add weight to the soundboard and affect the vibration characteristics of the top. I like tinkering to get things the way I like them but if the sound sucks ie) less volume and the sound is muddied it would be a waste of 2k. Haven't tried buffalo horn pins.do you have an opinion on how they compare with bone? LUXE BY MARTIN Bridge Pins (Turkish Emery/Dark Gray) $99.99. I ordered a set of antique acoustics J45 to try out. If the hole in the bridge is tapered to the same angle as the bridge pin there will be more purchase on the mechanical connection between the pin and the bridge/top/plate which should result in a stronger connection. $39 (see one of the photos, which came from Bob), plus $7 priority mail = $46. I didn't need to do anything to them to make them fit better, or rather I didn't want to. Hey! Pay enough money for something and you can easily convince yourself that it's making a difference. $19.99 Brand New 14-Day Return Policy Add to Cart D'Addario Rotating Elliptical Guitar Strap End Pins (Strap Locks) - New with Free Shipping! I am a newbie, no pretension to know the technical details and intricacies of how the whole guitar system works.so with that out of the way, looking at how the bridge plate looks like now, I can see the wear and the need to eventually get work done. the fretboard with the bridge pins, but when I installed them in the guitar selected To be honest when i had the "antique acoustic" pins in the guitar it sounded like crap (relatively speaking) but i don't think they were able to properly lock the strings in due to being so much larger than the holes. Fossil Mammoth Ivory can sell and ship anywhere on the planet except to the US states of NY, NJ, IL, HI, NV and CA. This morning installed my my Martin D38 '37 AA, and again same experienceIFF I can hear any change is a bit more sustain, but it could be my ears Really like the idea of this product to protect the structure of the guitar without sacrificing tone. About nine months ago, I bought a one-owner 1950 J-45, from the original owner. It's a source of endless debate on here but it made a marked improvement in my perception of the tone on my guitar. Always use Bob Colosi Saddles on ALL of my guitars.even had SCGC fit Colosi Fossilized Ivory saddle on the 34 Zorro as extra.switch out with OEM every few string changes just to enjoy difference. My handle is sixstringseafarer and Unfortunately, I didn't inherit his fighting skills, and my "fight or flight" gene is totally missing. Very impressed! I also don't have much saddle left on the guitar and so slotting the holes to increase string angle came up which got me exploring this. He also made a very dark brown set of bone pins, but those are definitely dark brown rather than coal black. To make a long story short, the guitar went to Ross Teigen for a neck re-set, brace re-glue, and bridgeplate conservation (filling and re-drilling worn pin holes). They look and sound great. They have a warm sound somewhere between ebony and bone. brands and models that take size 1T pins. should occur. Anybody got a good list of bridge pin sizes for various Guild acoustics? A few people have accused me of being wise about a few things over the years. Join a large, extended family united by a love for all things Martin. Found in Alaska, Canada and Siberia this unique material is 20,000 years old and is of a tan color. FACTORY SECONDS! View similar gear from other sellers on Reverb. As a keen amateur playing non-vintage acoustics, I have never (in 45y) needed to replace bridge pins because they wore out. $140-$180 Bridge pins cannot be shipped to: NY, NJ, CA, HI, NV, IL or overseas BONE BRIDGE PINS - Unslotted sets available for most bone pins BUFFFALO HORN BRIDGE PINS NUTS Reminder: Nuts come slightly oversized with the string slots uncut and should be installed by your local luthier or tech! I hope you'll check me out and buy with confidence. From what i've read gibson drills the holes straight through whereas Martin tapers the hole. When I had my J-45, I stuck StewMac slotted ebony pins in it without any trouble. Does Bob make Camel Bone bridge pins? with it better. Camel bone is not as hard as FWI, not having the mineral content (which is fine, since I don't like FWI). Upload or insert images from URL. I also have 315 perfect feedbacks on ebay since I joined in 2003100% positive For bridge plates to get gouged out by ball ends it would need a very long time, a bridge plate made of the wrong material, size or thickness, or straightup wrong string installment I imagine. Judging by the varied information on the internet, the bridge pins do have an effect. Btw- that is not terrible wear to really call for the PlateMate- and even if it were, there are options now that do not require the complete replacement of the bridge plate, as was once the usual fix. 1993 Martin HD-28 IR/Sitka 2001 SCGC F Cutaway Maple/German 2008 SCGC OT Madi/Italian Please check the fields highlighted in red. Experience the small but mighty sound of Martin Ukulele Strings. Have a Gibson J200 with plastic bridge pins thinking of replacing with bone of some type . I always upgrade my Martin offers Ebony pins, Bob Colosi recommends horn. For strings I use either John Pearse PB Mediums or D'Addario EJ17 Medium PB. Plain Bridge & Endpins - Ebony Plain. Martin offers Ebony pins, Bob Colosi recommends horn. They still need a little fitting. And well done getting photos of the inside- always a bit of a challenge, balancing light, camera (or phone), and hands, to frame a pic that makes sense. High quality precision acoustic guitar bridge pins, end pins and strap buttons. Based on your location, we've changed your settings: By clicking Subscribe, I agree to receive exclusive offers & promotions, news & reviews, and personalized tips for buying and selling on Reverb. Measured below the sikirt my '70 D50 is .209" x .137" which is a size 1 and my '90 D30 is .219" x .158" which looks like a 2A. This beautiful, "antiqued," set cost me Also if you prefer ebony..Martin pins will fit perfectly with no modifications to pin or holes either. Cow bone is cheap and plentiful and wouldn't add much to the cost of a guitar. Bought bone pins, & saddle from Bob Colosi . Additionally my Martin D15 came standard with Ebony pins. I ordered a couple of bone saddle blanks from Bob. I put in a set of unslotted Antique Acoustic pins. Join or Renew your membership today! There are buffalo horn pins that look the same for less. Oops, looks like you forgot something. 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It SHOULD be outside the acoustic chain - just like tuning machines. You might be fine if you've already reamed to set the originals down. These are Bone Bridge Pins from Bob Colosi for Martin Authentics only. Baggs Pickups Picks FAQs FEATURED ITEMS CLICK PICTURES FOR MORE INFORMATION UNIQUELY DYED BONE PINS Click the picture below for more details. Just installed on my HB, sounds as good as without and I have peace of mind on a $4K guitar that it's structure will not be damaged by the damn pins digging into the wood. But even if they do over a long period of time, the holes can just as easily be plugged when the guitar is in for a then-much-needed overhaul. charts from Bob that show the specs of the 1T size and the numerous guitar I've just installed Bob's bone saddle and pins on my 810ce. Made in USA in our Dover, Ohio shop. Bob custom makes these pieces out of high quality bone, horn, or ivory to exactly match what is already on your guitar, making replacement and upgrading a breeze. When Martin Guitar and Robert Goetzl come together to create instruments, the result is a collection of masterpieces that put the power of music, art, and nature in your hands. If the material used were softer, then I think that the transfer would be decreased by the dampening of the material and the lesser contact between surfaces. I've got it back with the larry cragg i've been using - couldn't tell any difference in sound between the factory plastics and the hybrid set, but i like the black pins better. I bought this custom-dyed set from him for my Taylor T5z build-to-order As to why, not truly sure. Guitar bridge pins, Made in USA, from fossilized wooly mammoth ivory. last night (March 9, '18), I decided I liked the look of the ebony pins that came I was messing with my bridge pins today and had a few questions so i figured i'd share. No matter your skill level or playing style, we want to help you find the perfect instrument and strings to spread joy to the world through your stories and music. This is a dense fossil ivory and of a light tan color. The pinholes were re-drilled and reamed for 5 degree taper pins, so I want to fit the pins to the bridge, rather than the other way around. The bone and horn ones that I just got from Bob Colosi are to that same spec. For now I am very very happy and have one to install on each guitar I have. I worked for me. That probably came from my father, who became a boxer in the Marine Corps because his big mouth was getting him punched so much. It may not display this or other websites correctly. LUXE BY MARTIN Bridge Pins (Gold) $149.99. The guitar sure is louder, clearer, and bit sharper. We make guitar pins of: 1) North American Cattle Bone for $39.95/set 2) Fossil Walrus Jawbone for $74.95/set 3) Fossilized Mammoth Ivory for $ 110/set When the pins are solid, does that necessitate a slotted bridge? Im now in my 50s and despite his advice Ive recently purchased a really lush J45 adj in a beautiful honey burst. apart from that the differences are mostly cosmetic. One is buffalo horn, almost coal black. It may have been a bad piece of bone-being organic the density and thus the vibration transferrence will vary-but I replaced the original saddle and got the tone back. This guitar is due for a string change, and I intend to put in the set of bone pins. I bought some new bridge pins from Bob Colosi based on measurements of my original bridge pins. From Bob Colosi's website, on the subject of bone pins:-. Usually it goes some something like this: "you're a bleeping wise-***", followed by a punch in the face. guitars and gear with nary a problem ever. including H x W x L, radius and compensation (if any), and these measurements will need to be taken with a dial caliper. Privacy Policy | You can then click on the red button on that page corresponding to the pin size you find on the chart. Thanks for your help on my question. Installation was pain free, the material is very very light and the plate mate is really nice. Copyright 2021 Gibson Brands, Inc. All rights reserved. This started because after a recent setup and i was trying to figure out if i should get the bridge pin holes tapered so the pins fit in there a little more tightly and consistently. However, I also like to experiment with pins and their impact on tone. This fascinating and attractive walk is best started from the Spitaltor, a massive gatehouse built in the 1500s. Later in the 1930s came 'plastic' (celluloid), and I believe moulded slotted plastic became standard some time in the 1940s. The holes on my '73 D-28 are all different sizes by now since I had the old original pins in until recently. IIRC, there is a long thread on UMGF about ramping and slotting bridges. I would take it to a luthier and have the pins fitted and pin holes slotted (your bridge plate will thank you one day). 9.5 radius 43 mm width. Currently Refined by Category: Bridge & End Pins, LUXE BY MARTIN Bridge Pins (Gloss Black with Pearl), LUXE BY MARTIN Bridge Pins (Bone with Pearl), LUXE BY MARTIN Bridge Pins (Gold with Pearl), LUXE BY MARTIN Bridge Pins (Gloss Black), LUXE BY MARTIN Bridge Pins (Turkish Emery/Dark Gray), Martin Inlaid Bridge & Endpins - White/Tortoise, Authentic Series Bridge and End Pin Set (Plain Black), Martin Inlaid Bridge & Endpins - White/Black. You can grab it for $25 including FREE shipping (fully insured, continental USA I am also going to try the Plate Mate on my other guitar to see how it goes, if I like I will put them on all my guitars. Learn More, We understand the importance of online privacy and are committed to complying with the EU General Data Protection Regulation. The central part of the tusk often yields that cool looking "burl" appearance. Based on your location, we've changed your settings: Shipping Region: What does make sense is that the pin should be the solid contact point between the varied components at the bridge and under it. Again, contact me with any questions and well see what we can do! I've tried all bridge pins over the years. Sometimes pins make a difference, sometimes they apparently don't. Unslotted sets available for most bone pins, I receive many send-ins every day, and this is the. Only Colosi on Martin HD-28 also Colosi Ivory Pins on this guitar. First, the blanks were $8 apiece and shipping was $4. An affordable, and reversible-enough experiment. I've read a little about the Camel bone being pretty close in hardness to FWI. I'm very skeptical about tonal effects of pins, but size and shape are important. The white plastic factory pins seat in there real well and tend to pitch to an angle under tension. Bob operates a service that allows you to get a replacement nut, saddle, or set of bridge pins for your guitar regardless of the size. People do say you can ream out the bridge pin holes, but somehow that seems to me to be a radical fix that can only be done in one direction - making the holes larger. The original black plastic pins came with it (note: sometimes pins were white in that period, sometimes black), but were shrunken and unusable. Is there a correct taper, manufactureror size I should look for? ebony or bone pins are cool because they're cool, that's about it Tony Done Member Messages 9,727 Mar 30, 2021 #4 Mostly acoustic. Maybe the nature of a Taylor guitar might not make the installation of the PlateMate as noticeable- maybe your next subject will allow that. Below is a link to Bob Colosi's website. 67. Something went wrong. See below on how to select your pin size and to purchase. Rothenburg ob der Tauber (German pronunciation: [otnbk p de tab] ()) is a town in the district of Ansbach of Mittelfranken (Middle Franconia), the Franconia region of Bavaria, Germany.It is well known for its well-preserved medieval old town, a destination for tourists from around the world. Up for sale is a set of Bob Colosi Premium Fossilized Walrus Ivory (FWI) pins. The pins on my 45 000-28 and 44 D-18 areplastic (white and black respectively). I recall reading that pins dont have to be tight in the bridge to serve their purpose. Lots of us here get pins and saddles of various material from Bob. He will custom make virtually anything you want or need, and it isn't expensive. 1 talking about this. They're made of some kind of hard plastic very similar to vintage Martin or Gibson pins. It's hard to get really black bone pins, so Bob made me two sets of pins. Family owned since 1972, Elderly Instruments is a music store specializing in new, used & vintage guitars, banjos, mandolins, ukuleles and more. Heel: 4.77mm, Gibson Plastic Whites - 6 degree taper Bob Colosi bone bridge pins New Music - David Grisman Dawg Works Volume 4, and a new bonus recording entitled Happy Birthday Lloyd Loar If this is your first visit, be sure to check out the FAQ by clicking the link above. The menu will walk you through a selection of pin materials, including ancient mammoth ivory, and a selection of inlay materials. He will custom make virtually anything you want or need, and it isn't expensive. It looks like these pins are the ones to go for! Really well done -- though the all-white version that I purchased for an old vintage Gibson would seem to be "plain," in reality the sheer quality of materials and execution make them beautiful to see. the neck is slender the set up fab the guitar looks great and feels super comfortable and so light. And they look quite a bit better too. Pins are very subjective but I think they sustain better than plastic. When I had my 2015 Southern Jumbo Supreme, I used these without issue. This item is sold As-Described and cannot be returned unless it arrives in a condition different from how it was described or photographed. Just as infoBob's site is back up and running! With unslotted pins, both the bridge and bridgeplate need to be saw-slotted to accommodate the strings. Tusq 21.41. Colosi (guitarsaddles.com). Although I don't have a frame of reference for this particular guitar, it sounds really fine with the Antique Acoustics pins and my standard DR Sunbeam light (12-54) PB's. For now I am very very happy and have one to install on each guitar I have. I honestly spent good money on trying brass, bone and various pins and finally settled on plastic. Is there any better bang for the buck in a new guitar than this. I know, it seems counterintuitive but for me, I will always choose light cheap plastic pins. That's just my opinion. They have not been replaced. Heel: 4.65mm, Larry Cragg Hybrid - 4 degree taper (the high e broke while i was tuning up) Florida Gulf Coast. I just got a set of bone pins size 2A with the 4mm abalone for my OM-28V and they are beautiful. Every guitar is going to be a bit different. The black Antique acoustics pins are clearly too large for the holes, one way or the other. Nick is extremely wise in this, despite his sun and salt sea baked brain. Hi forum guys, new to Gibson. Pasted as rich text. Bone 10.90. Items must be returned in original, as-shipped condition with all original packaging.Learn More. If the pins holes wear a little over time, then the pins will continue to be usable. It's much denser, however, than most bone, and has a creamy whiteness; both of which make it a darn close substitute for elephant ivory. Many here consider Antique Acoustics pins to be the best choice, me too. (oversize items: pickups, huge orders, etc. See shipping page for details and restrictions. You are using an out of date browser. For better or worse, that's the way I do it. Thanks. Theres one surefire way to give your guitar the tone it deserves. Your purchases help youth music programs get the gear they need to make music. I thought it would be cool to match the boxwood inlays in Since you're having Bob do up a new saddle for you, why don't you have him size up some new bridge pins for you at the same time?